Thursday 29 October 2009

is ebid.nets good news of three million listings being hidden?

I know most people like a who done it, so here is one for you.

This blog post popped up in my google news stuff for ebid.net and it shows this link

http://thingstosellonebay.net/ebay-alternative-other-places-to-sell-and-buy-online/

As you can see I made some changes to the original spam of the article, I marked out the first few in red to point that out what I have changed. Basically changing ebay to ebad and then changing ebid to ebid.net

Currently is eBad is the biggest player in the online auction and e-commerce game. But things are shifting and these shifts are not necessarily in Ebad’s favor. (Though eBad remains a great way to make money — as well as a great place to find great stuff at a great place, many are looking for an eBad alternative.) Now is that a marketing line or not?

The reasons for this are several fold. But the number of reason people are looking for alternatives to eBad is that eBad has made several changes in the past couple of years. The most important of these for sellers has been the initiation of new fees for listings. As a seller you will have to pay a fee when you list your item as well as when it sells. If it doesn’t sell, you still owe Ebad for the listing fee.

There are other reasons people are looking else where as well. These include buyers who have grown weary of the old Ebad style of business. Despite the fact that there are well over 100 million eBad users, the company’s growth has slowed and people (both buyers and sellers) are finding new sites to do business.

There have been alternatives to Ebad which have cropped up in the past, Yahoo!Auctions is a good example, but many of these were not successful in part because most everyone was pretty happy at Ebad. Today, many folks are looking elsewhere, so if you are looking for an alternative to sell your products, here are a few of the best options.

eBid.net
My favorite non-Ebad e-commerce site is the fast-growing eBid.net for a couple of simple reasons. First, and most importantly, my stuff has sold well there even though it is still a much smaller marketplace than Ebad. But it’s growth quarter over quarter has been phenomenal.

The other reason why Ebid.net rules is that they do not have any listing fees so your costs will be lower. Some sellers use the lower costs to offer buyers better deals, but most simply pocket the difference and improve their margins. In fact, some people that I know use both eBid.net and eBad for simultaneous listings and to great effect. But, back to the listings.

On eBid.net you have the option to enroll to their basic or premium seller structure. As a basic seller you are charged 3% of the selling price per item. As a premium seller you can buy access to the site in chunks for a time. You simply pre-purchase access for a week or a month and can list and sell items during that period. It’s a hassle free way to do business and works for both volume sellers (who work as premium sellers) and smaller sellers (who operate under the basic plan).

But, clearly, the best thing about eBid.net is that there are not any listing fees. This is huge if you want to test out a market or have some items that you aren’t sure will sell. For this reason, eBid.net is my number one Ebad alternative.

Another option is netSpray which bills itself as the “Free Online Marketplace.” At netSpray there aren’t really any fees. You don’t face an insertion fee, a service fee, a final value fee or have to subscribe to the site in order to use it. Additionally, you can export your listings via a widget and place them in your own website or blog or on another site such as Facebook or MySpace. You can also include mini-listings of your item in emails if you have a newsletter or are an email marketer.

So those are a couple of options you might consider if you are looking for an ebad alternative. And of course there will always be new e-commerce sites popping up every now and again and I will do by best to keep you appraised of those. But, and here is my final word:

For most people eBad remains the best place to start out. If you are already a powerseller, you have the resources and background to conduct a successfully campaign on another site. However, if you are just looking to learn how to make money with auctions then eBad remains your best bet. Sure, sign up at eBid.net and netSpray but focus most of your efforts on Ebad. You can still make a lot of money on eBad if you are willing to learn the game and learn your market. Even in the face of new fees, most people are still doing well on eBad and will continue using the site.

You can read the rest if you follow the link and You can find the real ebid fees here http://uk.ebid.net/help_money.php and if you would like to know what ebid.net sellers are doing to promote their products without paying others money you can check here http://meetup.ebid.net/forumdisplay.php?f=131
Most ebid sellers do offer their goods cheaper than ebay. In fact if you search the blogs, almost every seller offers their goods cheaper on any other venue, including their own sites or auction sites like ebid.net. This is one of the problems ebay is trying to face, as they offer their powersellers around 20% discount, in a hope that their sellers would pass on the discounts to buyers. Problem is none of them did, so ebay had to start offering the discount coupons direct to the buyers, which also seemed to fail.
The only thing you may notice on ebid, is that sellers will list at the lowest price they want, as they are not restricted by the extortionate fees that ebay have for simply listing an item, and as everyone tells you, that ebid.net is the growing site, and the traffic is still building. So the start price will often be the end price, and unlike the hidden buyer system of ebay, if anyone shills on ebid they will be kicked, and unlike it seems on ebay, that will not depend who they are.

One or two of us tried to add a comment telling the writer of their error, but, as with so many of these ebay promo articles, the comments are ignored.

NOW THE PUZZLE

Now this is an ebay marketing blog, which is easy to see, as it has mentioned them more times than anyone would in a lifetime, and they offer ebid as their favourite alternative, my stuff has sold well on ebid.net. (Adding that red to indicate their clever use, or none use of the name when they mention that their stuff sold well on ebid.net. It is littered with that stuff)

Now there is so much that is puzzling me on this, so I may add to this page over the next few days, as I gather my thoughts.

But one of the puzzling things is this blog is basically a nothing blog, and by that I am not calling the writer, I just mean it has nothing on it to warrant its rating 1/10.


Then when I did a search for its back links

I got this

1 http://easywaytoebay.blogspot.com/ items to sell on ebay
2 http://4myc.com/?p=2004 things to sell on ebay
3 http://b2bshirts4u.com/?p=43 items to sell on ebay
4 http://www.submittolinkdirectory.com/Auctions/ Things to Sell on Ebay
5 http://ft8.org/detail/link-640.html
6 http://www.thinkrevs.com/category/online-business/
7 http://www.submittolinkdirectory.com/Auctions/eBay/ Things to Sell on Ebay
8 http://ezinearticles.com/?Best-Things-to-Sell-on-eBay&i.....
9 http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Make-Money-on-eBay-Wit.....
10 http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Make-a-Sustainable-Inc.....
11 http://www.scottsoloff.com/the-single-secret-to-buildin.....
12 http://www.auction-essentials.com/secure-your-financial.....
13 http://www.homebasedbusiness.1stforgen.com/achieve-fina.....
14 http://hubpages.com/hub/Things-to-Sell-on-Ebay things to sell on ebay
15 http://www.cmasterson.com/home-based-business/the-singl.....
16 http://www.cmasterson.com/38/home-based-business/the-si.....
17 http://www.printingaustralia.com.au/printing/business/t.....
18 http://www.printingaustralia.com.au/printing/business/a.....
19 http://bigebayprofits.blogspot.com/ things to sell on ebay
20 http://bigebayprofits.blogspot.com/2009/08/ebay-alterna.....
21 http://www.cash-mission.com/2009/08/16/secure-your-fina.....
22 http://www.cash-mission.com/2009/08/16/secure-your-fina.....
23 http://www.lcroskey.com/rss.php?c=691 items to sell on ebay
24 http://ft8.org/blogs/making_money/
25 http://auction-tips.datgms.net/?tag=internet-business p­rod­ucts­ to s­el­l­ on­ Eb­ay
26 http://bigebayprofits.blogspot.com/2009/08/is-there-sti.....
27 http://www.internetmarketingreview101.com/online-busine.....
28 http://shywriting.com/?cat=5
29 http://cheapest-wholesale-products.com/category/uncateg.....
30 http://emialcash.com/achieve-financial-freedom-with-a-s..... wholesale products to sell upon ebay
31 http://www.yoursrank.com/achieve-financial-freedom-with.....
32 http://www.cmasterson.com/achieve-financial-freedom-wit.....
33 http://www.deniseasinclair.com/the-single-secret-to-bui.....
34 http://www.auction-essentials.com/achieve-financial-fre.....
35 http://qualityarticlessite.com/secure-your-financial-fu.....
36 http://www.homebasedbusiness.1stforgen.com/secure-your-.....
37 http://www.cheapwebsitehostingaustralia.com.au/the-sing.....
38 http://www.cheapwebsitehostingaustralia.com.au/secure-y.....
39 http://ft8.org/blogs/making_money/?s=H&p=1
40 http://www.submittolinkdirectory.com/Auctions/eBay/Thin.....
41 http://www.onestoponlinebusiness.com/blog/index.php/tag.....
42 http://www.gogosun.net/computers_and_internet/world_wid.....
43 http://1aaadomains.com/blog/?p=1930 stuff to sell on ebay
44 http://www.cmasterson.com/tag/ebay/ items to sell on ebay
45 http://nichearticle.net/directory/category/Business/too.....
46 http://g-p-group.com/gpgblog/the-single-secret-to-build.....
47 http://www.cmasterson.com/the-single-secret-to-building.....
48 http://auction-tips.datgms.net/714/achieve-financial-fr.....
49 http://auction-tips.datgms.net/721/secure-your-financia.....
50 http://www.helpinyoursuccess.com/blogs/secure-your-fina.....
51 http://www.rekliarticles.com/business/secure-your-finan.....
52 http://www.submittolinkdirectory.com/home/consumer-info.....
53 http://resolutionsale.com/blog/2594/the-single-secret-t..... wholesale items to sell on ebay 83
54 http://www.hongkongawards.com/2009/08/secure-your-finan.....
55 http://www.artipot.com/articles/416964/achieve-financia..... wholesale products to sell on ebay 41
56 http://www.learningisfree.com/internet-business/ecommer.....
57 http://www.learningisfree.com/internet-business/ecommer.....
58 http://www.rhinopm.com/v9/content/view/15388/116/ wholesale products to sell on ebay 57
59 http://mantrauangsaya.co.cc/2009/09/06/make-money-onlin..... wholesale items to sell on ebay 110
60 http://www.kelseypub.com/blog/internetbusiness/ecommerc..... items to sell on ebay 246
61 http://www.kelseypub.com/blog/internetbusiness/ecommerc..... best wholesale products to sell on ebay 246
62 http://www.verygoodsearch.com/blog/internetbusiness/eco..... wholesale items to sell on ebay 213
63 http://www.theuniquearticle.com/achieve-financial-freed.....
64 http://bigebayprofits.blogspot.com/2009/08/ebay-brings-.....
65 http://www.bablouse.com/index.php?c=139 Things to Sell on Ebay 35
66 http://cheapest-wholesale-products.com/how-to-find-prod..... things to sell on ebay 26
67 http://www.lcroskey.com/blogs/making_money/ Things to Sell on Ebay 93
68 http://www.lcroskey.com/detail/link-9013.html Things to Sell on Ebay 61
69 http://directory.ezweb-tools.com/Gambling-Casinos/Inter..... Things to Sell on Ebay 57
70 http://auction-tips.datgms.net/tag/internet-business/ pr­o­­d­uct­s t­o­­ sell o­­n Eba­y 40
71 http://www.monsterlinkdirectory.com/Computers_and_Inter..... Things to Sell on Ebay 63
72 http://directory.ezweb-tools.com/Internet/Internet-Mark..... Things to Sell on Ebay 57

I left it in a bit of a mess at the bottom as I got bored cutting out the crap but I am sure you get a idea of the sites that they are back linked to, and what they do. You may not be able to do this again, as all the back link sites I checked today no longer show anything for this site.

The who is reads like this

Domain ID:
Domain Name: thingstosellonebay.net
Created On: 06-Jan-2009 00:00:00
Expiration Date: 06-Jan-2010 00:00:00
Sponsoring Registrar: 'Check Whois' (GODADDY) (GODADDY)
Status: client_delete_prohibited,client_renew_prohibited,c lient_transfer_prohibited,client_update_prohibited
Name Server: ns1249.hostgator.com
Name Server: ns1250.hostgator.com
Registrant Name: Bryan Stabile
Registrant Street1: 1013 Oaklands Dr
Registrant City: Round Rock
Registrant State/Province: Texas
Registrant Postal Code: 78681
Registrant Country: United States
Admin Name: Stabile Bryan
Admin Street1: Round Rock, Texas 78681
Admin Country: (512) 255-9879
Admin Email: bryanstabile@hotmail.com


Now there is the question of who done it and why?

Could it be that ebid.net has a lot of talk going on about the fact ebid.net are about to reach three million listings, and if you swamp the search engines, with professional use of search words and a forced 1/10 rating, then anything you write will be pushing the real story to the bottom of the listing, and people can be lazy, and not look further than page one.

netSpray by the way does not really look like an alternative selling venue, but is more some form of marketing tool, used by ebad sellers. Never heard of it so I may look at it later.

If you are new to online selling or an old hand, check out http://www.ebid.net

If you are new to selling, I can only advise you to stay away from ebay, if you are wanting a safe place to sell, as it has become a hard place for those that have been there for years and have seen it all. So I really do not know how hard it would be for someone new to selling to start up on ebay.
You will be better off going to ebid.net, where the sellers on the forum will help you all they can. Even if you sell what they sell, they will still offer guidance. Unlike ebay where if you sell what another user sells, then you will either be attacked for daring to offer the same goods, or they will use you for a supplier, while ebay hides your goods in the best match.

But if you have found this and are looking at the article above, then do your own research before taking anything as gospel, as there does seem to be a lot of misinformation flying around.

I may work on this again in the morning, but now it is late and I have had enough for the night.

But hopefully you ask the same question as I have is ebid.nets good news of three million listings being hidden, and by who?

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